Anarchist FAQ still has links to non-libre software in parts of it.

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Other_Cody
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The Anarchist FAQ suggests downloading and using the non-libre software

http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep.html

http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/alternate.html

of "Adobe Document Reader" aka "Adobe acrobat"

https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Collection:Windows

shows this is non-libre software.

I'm not for anarchism, though this report is not about removing text/thoughts/free_speech, but how will it be best to remove suggestions about using non-libre software from this document, as Trisquel does try to only suggest using libre software, to preserve the end user's liberty.

If it was just removed it may look like the authors of this document never encouraged the use of non-libre software.

If it is not removed it may look like Trisquel suggests downloading and using the non-libre software, or at least has a package that shows people that non-libre software is not bad but should optionally be included in distro's repositories, or installed by end users as if it would be a "good" idea to use non-libre things.

Though if it is too hard to be removed it may be best to remove the package so as not make it look like the non-libre supporting libertarian socialists actually support liberty in software (if Trisquel removed the link) or make it look like Trisquel supports freedom removing non-libre software (if Trisquel or the authors did not change the package)?

Does anyone know how best to change this or contact the people who could change this non-libre software suggesting document?

I'm not an anarchist so I may not be the best person to change an anarchist FAQ document.

If it is removed I do not need this non-libre supporting document, though I do support everyones right of free speech, even if I disagree with the libertarian socialists supporting software with licenses that try to remove the end users liberty, and likely other liberty removing text libertarian socialists also likely promote.

I just do not wish to have fully free distros hosting links to what these (the freedom supporting) distros do not think is right and just.

I think the source may have to be keeped for a little while as in is GPLed, but than can be deleted with the program as the document does show a link to non-libre software.

https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Free_Software_Directory:Requirements

Fully non-libre distros like Red Star OS have many liberty problems, but even things like Adobe Document Reader may be a step in that non-libre direction.

anarchism-15.3$ grep -ri acrobat

shows the text of

html/pdf.html:To view and print out the file you will need to have Adobe Document Reader on your computer. This is free software that now comes on many computers and with many CD's. If you do not already have it you can download it from the Adobe site. [or click here for a faster text only page]

But fully libre PDF readers exist to read PDFs like Atril Document Viewer, and likely many other programs. Even if these did not there is still a choice not to use things that do not support liberty.

So if anyone needs/wishes to view a PDF file I suggest people use fully libre software (and Atril Document Viewer that comes with Trisquel does also work well, though that is not the point, but freedom is) to read documents they do not need to sign away any freedoms to have a right to read.

An upstream patch has been made

anarchism-15.3$ grep -ri adobe
debian/changelog: * d/p/686968-Remove-Adobe-advertisement: applied upstream.
debian/changelog: * Add debian/patches/686968-Remove-Adobe-advertisement.patch to do exactly
html/pdf.html:To view and print out the file you will need to have Adobe Document Reader on your computer. This is free software that now comes on many computers and with many CD's. If you do not already have it you can download it from the Adobe site. [or click here for a faster text only page]
markdown/pdf.md:To view and print out the file you will need to have Adobe Document Reader on
markdown/pdf.md:many CD's. If you do not already have it you can [ download it from the Adobe

But after I installed the anarchism to test/read/research it I still saw the link. The link to the page is near the bottom of the first page and is called "An Anarchist FAQ in pdf format"

Clicking that leads to another page that shows

"An Anarchist FAQ" in pdf format

To view and print out the file you will need to have Adobe Document Reader on your computer. This is free software that now comes on many computers and with many CD's. If you do not already have it you can download it from the Adobe site. [or click here for a faster text only page]

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.html

I and anyone can learn about true freedom in Jesus Christ by looking at the King James Bible in print, or by using libre licensed programs like Wide Margin, verse, the many other libre software bible programs in Trisquel's repository, or downloading a PDF bible from sites like

https://archive.org/details/king-james-bible-pure-cambridge-edition

For PDF readers

https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/10

For text readers

or many other places for many other types of readers.

https://librivox.org/bible-complete-king-james-version/

Also has public domain audio of it. So no one need to think they must use non-libre software to read or be read to.

I think because there may be only a small amount of non-libre links in this program called "anarchism" it may not be too hard to patch out. Or even remove. I do not know how much more may suggest non-libre software or other things as this is a large document.

Open.Trisquel
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What you are describing is like the situation at the debian project, where in the name of "following the rules" they actually are imposing absolute behavior and thinking, onto people broadly.(manipulating people, distorting freedom) That is patently anti-freedom behavior in fact, and it isn't confusing or difficult to understand, except, in my mind, for people that are actually anti-freedom.

This is a very serious indication actually that there are deeply corrupted roots within the linux community, and despite our ability to intelligently identify this behavior taking place, actually competently confronting it is entirely different, and might as well be the paramount paradox of free software at all.

Who is this software, free for exactly? Isn't it true, that organizations or even individuals with bad intentions, can take advantage of free software?

Obviously

It shouldn't be a mystery to us, that we need to support ethical behavior, and that includes honesty, in order to ensure people's awareness, which lends itself to the security of people as well as technological systems. It's obvious to me, to be more honest for a moment, that a variety of people on this forum are effectively creating nonsensical posts, to waste people's time, and distract their attention from what are vital issues.

And as opposed to for example, actually meaningfully communicating with others, on a web forum, which is the ideal purpose of the thing.

Other_Cody
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Iscritto: 12/20/2023

I see what you mean.

At https://trisquel.info/en/forum/concerns-trisquel-and-future-linux#comment-182066

I posted

Because things like copyright, patents, trademarks, licenses, and other things are enforced we do sometimes get nice things like protecting continued development with source code of things through strong copyleft, but also non-libre things get enforced in court as well.

The https://sfconservancy.org/copyleft-compliance/vizio.html

is ongoing, though it is odd how we got to the point of needing/wishing to defend free speech and the right of people to use what they use how they wish to use it in court.

There is also the locked topic https://trisquel.info/en/forum/i-believe-copyleft-harmful-free-culture-movement

that questions the ways libre software and its enforcment are sometimes done.

https://web.archive.org/web/20260113174112/https://forum.luanti.org/viewtopic.php?p=432245

though has a nice response by a user called Blockhead of why licenses are needed.

Though than again https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Star_OS

was/is also used in very non liberty supporting ways as was possibly Anubis.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Anubis_(software)#worth_mentioning_the_FSF_calling_it_%22malware%22_(with_very_loose_reasoning)?

https://web.archive.org/web/20251219172350/https://www.fsf.org/blogs/sysadmin/our-small-team-vs-millions-of-bots

https://web.archive.org/web/20251219172755/https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Anubis_captcha

But even non-software things are unfortunately used in very evil ways to harm others.

I do not know how all websites try to balance filtering vs censorship vs avoiding breaking copyright, and unfortunately sometimes that even gets mixed up is unbiblical and problematic ways.

I hope everything is only used in good ways, though that is not always done.

https://trisquel.info/files/king-james-bible-pure-cambridge-edition-pdf_archive.torrent

https://archive.org/download/king-james-bible-pure-cambridge-edition-pdf/king-james-bible-pure-cambridge-edition-pdf_archive.torrent

Ark74

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Iscritto: 07/15/2009

>The Anarchist FAQ suggests downloading and using the non-libre software

Please open a ticket and we can improve it not to require specifically Adobe Reader, when there are plenty of good ones.

Open.Trisquel
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Iscritto: 01/08/2026

I would suggest to you that the "anarchist faq" being a package in trisquel is a kind of non-free program, and if either of you are unaware of the fact, I can explain it to you in simple terms

Possessing this kind of material, is like setting a trap, for third-parties to claim that trisquel is hosting/encouraging radical dangerous ideas.

It's clearly an act of manipulation, in this thread for example, to draw people's attention to a negative subject matter, away from practical useful thinking. And I would hope that you can recognize the fact, and at least ignore it, as opposed to uplifting it into relevance.

Open.Trisquel
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Iscritto: 01/08/2026

I will add, again, that this situation resembles what is taking place in other GnuLinux projects like debian, where the development and community are actively manipulated every day, under the pretense, of supporting the rules, or mutual objectives.